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laurashrti Original Post: Aug 13 '08,  7:42 am           Reply
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Deadly Book Reviewing Terms

Stumbled across this article through a library listserv and was, of course, intrigued by it. As writing is a craft many of us enjoy I was compelled to share it with you all, and hope you don't eschew it (did I even use that correctly??).

Okay, I'll stop. Here's the link:



http://papercuts.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/seven-deadly-words-of-book-reviewing/

   
scmrak Posted: Aug 14 '08,  8:25 am (Updated: Aug 14 '08,  8:26 am)           Reply
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Hey, I resemble that remark!

I frequently use "crafted," although I gather not in the same sense that the blogger b*tches about. I also use "eschew" far more frequently than the average bear. Both are perfectly good words, especially "craft," which to me connotes something more meticulous and painstaking than mere "creation." That's the beauty of a language with multiple synonyms.

The rest of the words are ones I rarely see in real reviews. Seems to me that they're the kind of telltale buzzwords that appear in blurbs on the covers of direct-to-paperback novels, or vanity press books where friends of the author are attempting to appear "hoity-toity." Or is hoity-toity a forbidden adjective, too; and I'm supposed to use "pompous" since more people know what it means?

Deliver me from people who quote Fowler without understanding him.

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rex (who used limn - correctly - in his thesis; which was most assuredly not a book review)

   
sleeper54 Posted: Aug 14 '08,  12:47 pm           Reply
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Quote: laurashrti
Stumbled across this article through a library listserv and was, of course, intrigued by it. As writing is a craft many of us enjoy I was compelled to share it with you all, and hope you don't eschew it (did I even use that correctly??).

Okay, I'll stop. Here's the link:



http://papercuts.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/seven-deadly-words-of-book-reviewing/


My mom tried to teach me to eschew my food thoroughly before swallowing...

My gawd, the comment thread there runs 200-plus. Are there really that many words/phrases to be bugged about..??

*waiting for -30- to 'totally agree'*



...tom...
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scmrak Posted: Aug 14 '08,  1:58 pm (Updated: Aug 14 '08,  1:58 pm)           Reply
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Quote: sleeper54
My mom tried to teach me to eschew my food thoroughly before swallowing...
Mom was into fletcherizing, huh?

Quote: sleeper54
My gawd, the comment thread there runs 200-plus. Are there really that many words/phrases to be bugged about..??
Every time anyone puts together one of those lists, people come out of the woodwork to give their pets a chance to peeve on the neighbors' lawns. Many of them have such abysmal writing habits themselves that it borders on hilarious.

The blogger took mediocre writers to task for hackneyed words, but I'm willing to bet that if you asked him (her?) if s/he planned on hitting the Jersey Shore for vacation this year, s/he'd reply "Absolutely!"

DAISNAID.

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rex (who absolutely cringes every time he hears "absolutely" used to mean, "why, yes!" -- and who's noticed that the glitterati have begun to eschew "absolutely" in favor of "exactly." You heard it here first.)
   
sleeper54 Posted: Aug 14 '08,  7:45 pm (Updated: Aug 14 '08,  7:45 pm)           Reply
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Quote: scmrak
Mom was into fletcherizing, huh?

I take no small measure of satisfaction that I know exactly what that thought means. Nyuk, nyuk.



Quote: scmrak
--snip--

The blogger took mediocre writers to task for hackneyed words, but I'm willing to bet that if you asked him (her?) if s/he planned on hitting the Jersey Shore for vacation this year, s/he'd reply "Absolutely!"

DAISNAID.

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rex (who absolutely cringes every time he hears "absolutely" used to mean, "why, yes!" -- and who's noticed that the glitterati have begun to eschew "absolutely" in favor of "exactly." You heard it here first.)

Absolutely, I understand exactly what you mean there too..!!



...tom...
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scmrak Posted: Aug 15 '08,  6:36 am (Updated: Aug 15 '08,  6:37 am)           Reply
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Quote: sleeper54
I take no small measure of satisfaction that I know exactly what that thought means. Nyuk, nyuk.
Did you know that if you take a starchy food like a regular cracker (Saltine® or equivalent) and chew it for what seems like hours, it will eventually begin to taste sweet? Maybe Mom was just trying to give you a veggie and dessert in the same forkful...

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rex
   
anderclayton Posted: Aug 15 '08,  1:11 pm           Reply
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Quote: scmrak
Did you know that if you take a starchy food like a regular cracker (Saltine� or equivalent) and chew it for what seems like hours, it will eventually begin to taste sweet?

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rex


While if you eschew it for hours it would begin to taste stale. :D

Ander
   
George_Chabot Posted: Aug 19 '08,  8:32 am           Reply
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I

like people with a good vocabulary and the taste to use it without excess. A bunch of synonyms is far better than the same two words used over and over and over again.

There is nothing wrong with knowing words; people ashamed of that are barking up the tree of conformity.

   
anderclayton Posted: Aug 19 '08,  1:23 pm           Reply
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Quote: George_Chabot
like people with a good vocabulary and the taste to use it without excess. A bunch of synonyms is far better than the same two words used over and over and over again.

There is nothing wrong with knowing words; people ashamed of that are barking up the tree of conformity.


;) It depends on whether you actually know the synonyms or if you've just cribbed them from a thesaurus. I've seen a fair few people that just use words interchangeably which doesn't really work because (generally) synonyms don't *quite* have the same meaning/subtexts/undertones/whatnot.

   
scmrak Posted: Aug 19 '08,  2:48 pm (Updated: Aug 19 '08,  2:51 pm)           Reply
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Quote: anderclayton
...whatnot...
Connotation and denotation?

ETA: there are few things more amusing to word people than catching a wannabe wordsmith who's been amokking in Roget.

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rex
   
anderclayton Posted: Aug 19 '08,  7:32 pm (Updated: Aug 19 '08,  7:37 pm)           Reply
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Quote: scmrak
Connotation and denotation?

ETA: there are few things more amusing to word people than catching a wannabe wordsmith who's been amokking in Roget.

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rex


*laugh* Sure. Connotation, denotation, sense, reference, all of that "whatnot". Lots of variables but easier to put in an etc sort of thing.

It is a bit less amusing when someone else sees a misused word and picks up the wrong meaning of it. Oddly enough, this does seep into the language off and on or even on an ongoing basis.

Ander
   
scmrak Posted: Aug 20 '08,  4:42 am           Reply
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Quote: anderclayton
It is a bit less amusing when someone else sees a misused word and picks up the wrong meaning of it. Oddly enough, this does seep into the language off and on or even on an ongoing basis.
So what you're saying is, "Semi-literacy is contagious"...

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rex
   
anderclayton Posted: Aug 23 '08,  11:26 pm           Reply
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Quote: scmrak
So what you're saying is, "Semi-literacy is contagious"...

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rex


Hmm.

Well.

English is a mutating language (living language, whatever you want to call it) but it seems like a lot of the recent tendancy is more to dumb language down rather than keeping variations in the language. Like the article...

At least it does this in some ways.

Ander
   
scmrak Posted: Aug 25 '08,  8:17 am (Updated: Aug 25 '08,  8:21 am)           Reply
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Oh, yeah, no doubt that English is a living language - just look at all of the words that OED and other dictionaries add each year. Of course, what you're talking about - shift in meaning because of misunderstanding - is a bit more like a virus than healthy growth, at least IMHO But, then, I admit to being fairly prescriptivist.

One need only watch the daily and Sunday morning politico-business talk shows to get a feeling for the next semantic shift (or, I suppose, "Entertainment Tonight," which I don't think I've ever watched). Those are where the verbed nouns - "impacted," "prioritized" - enter the argot, as well as buzzwords like the misuse of "absolutely" and buzzphrases such as "irrational exuberance." Some of those talking heads and other spinmeisters are extremely good at exploiting the general public's unfamiliarity with words. That's how previously neutral words are co-opted by political movements and become loaded terms: take "values," for example. But I digress...

Part of the weakness of linguistic descriptivism - at least to those of us who are more prescriptivist - is the attitude that, "it's what people say, so it's now part of the language." That's how we lose perfectly good terminology: I had a discussion with someone just recently about "jerry-rigged" vs. "jury-rigged." The etymology of the word is from sailing, where a "jury rig" is a sort of ad hoc setup (I know nothing of sailing, mind you) to replace damaged rigging, but since the term seems slightly pejorative the pronunciation and spelling shifted to "jerry-rigged" during WWII because Germans were called "jerries" (and there was confusion with the term "jerry-built," which means of shoddy manufacture). The upshot? a term that meant "improvised" - one might even say admiringly, "McGyvered" - now means "crappy" to most people, who mispronounce it to boot.

Yes, a living language; but evolving inefficiently sometimes.

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rex

   
anderclayton Posted: Aug 25 '08,  5:48 pm           Reply
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...or "begging the question" :) I've actually never heard the term "jerry rigging" personally (or at least not consciously) and have always thought of the term "jury rigging" as meaning essentially a temporary fix to something done on the spot but not meant to last forever.

A friend of mine and I had a discussion a while back about the term "modern" and whether it actually has relevance now. It seems an odd term that is somewhat stranded right now. Sometimes it seems used as the buzzword of the moment but when I think of it as a term it generally means a technological shift past outhouses and the like. Also the whole "Moderns" thing resonates but as far as technology goes it lacks meaning with tech shifting so quickly nowadays.

Personally I like and don't like the living language deal. I tend to like standardized spelling to some degree. I prefer British punctuation to a degree (funny funny:) ). I also like the fact that English can shift words from pretty much any language (including computerspeak) wholesale depending on need or desires of the moment. I think translating names (aside from character differences) is silly though (for some reason--given my own name;) ) but can understand it to some degree with unpronounceable sounds. I think that bastardizing and ruining perfectly good words is silly though but slowly changing them isn't that big a deal.

Ander

   
anderclayton Posted: Aug 25 '08,  5:51 pm           Reply
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Quote: scmrak

One need only watch the daily and Sunday morning politico-business talk shows to get a feeling for the next semantic shift (or, I suppose, "Entertainment Tonight," which I don't think I've ever watched). Those are where the verbed nouns - "impacted," "prioritized" - enter the argot, as well as buzzwords like the misuse of "absolutely" and buzzphrases such as "irrational exuberance." Some of those talking heads and other spinmeisters are extremely good at exploiting the general public's unfamiliarity with words. That's how previously neutral words are co-opted by political movements and become loaded terms: take "values," for example. But I digress...


:) Or you could look at the article in question. A lot of the words that they point out (both in the article and in the comments section) are more buzzwords of the moment than anything else. They are just overused and not necessarily bad words in themselves. This seems similar to the political phrases that you point out.

Ander
   
sleeper54 Posted: Aug 26 '08,  9:31 am           Reply
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Quote: scmrak
--snip--

That's how we lose perfectly good terminology: I had a discussion with someone just recently about "jerry-rigged" vs. "jury-rigged." The etymology of the word is from sailing, where a "jury rig" is a sort of ad hoc setup (I know nothing of sailing, mind you) to replace damaged rigging, but since the term seems slightly pejorative the pronunciation and spelling shifted to "jerry-rigged" during WWII because Germans were called "jerries" (and there was confusion with the term "jerry-built," which means of shoddy manufacture). The upshot? a term that meant "improvised" - one might even say admiringly, "McGyvered" - now means "crappy" to most people, who mispronounce it to boot.

--snip--

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rex

Another voice I respect on the 'jerry-built vs jury-rigged' mash up.



...tom...
' who is helping push the use of 'mash up' to apply to more than just music or computer apps . . .. '
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anderclayton Posted: Aug 27 '08,  12:27 am (Updated: Aug 27 '08,  1:06 am)           Reply
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Quote: sleeper54
Another voice I respect on the 'jerry-built vs jury-rigged' mash up.



...tom...
' who is helping push the use of 'mash up' to apply to more than just music or computer apps . . .. '
.


*laugh* My old professor. Maybe he was even my advisor for a while. I think I had him for SF Literature though.

Funny funny.

Ander

*edited to note that...* :) After checking out the site, it looks like he was doing/started the site about the same time I was going to school there and if he was my advisor it might explain why I had such trouble getting a hold of him.
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